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I don't know if you already read the lates The Last interview with Kishimoto.....if not, here's a taste of it>>>

raintalker.tumblr.com/post/103…


I am so very sorry I didn't reply to most of your messages to the journal before this one, but I wasn't in the state. I tried to answer the notes at least... But I'll make sure to reply to everyone of you properly, once I gather some strength and time - I read all of your comments and I must THANK YOU for bringing up clever things, for revealing your feelings about it and taking your time to read the hugeass entry. I have some deadlines to reach now, so I should probably focus more on my work - but all this NS.The Last business is sucking the strength out of me. I simply can't believe how narrow-minded and mean some people are and why the whole shipping war still isn't over because some people feel the need to trample all over the love of others, even though they are already pretty much lying in dirt. It's a shame and it's just pathetically low and I am glad that it's all going to end very soon, because this all just turned into something that it TOTALLY NOT WORTH ANYONE'S TIME AND ENERGY. I posted my latest opinions on tumblr, so I'm plastering theme here as well. Might not be able to reply again instantly, but I'll try to do it asap. NS fans are broken and feel they have a warped view on love....that's something that shouldn't be happening, so a few words to you first>


To all NH/SS/NS fans>>>
(but especially for NS fans.....)

the interwiev prooved, that NH wasn’t being planned from the beginning and that it was NOT set in stone from chap 1. Also, Kishimoto now openly stated he CONSIDERED the NS route at SOME point (probably early shippuuden)…..but in the end, he just didn’t because he/his editors/they all found it wrong and bad. So there you have it.

We were definitely NOT delusional, we definitely did not read the thing wrong, and the NS route had definitely been established, but they just didn’t choose it.

Therefore, there’s no reason for NS shippers to feel bad, stupid, with warped view on what is love because the love was there at some point and we filtered it through our own cultural filter. Hope this calms you a bit. And yeah, Naruto didn’t move on. He basically straight out gave up. Because he has seen Sakura’s resolve and considered it admirable virtue. That’s the reason why he didn’t confess. And that is also why we probably won’t see any confession at all - because it just would be pointless. Because the man has his pride and he also respects the woman’s choice. I still would’ve wished, that Kishimoto stepped outside the box and made Naruto fight for her - because he, more than ANYONE IN THE MANGA, had seen fisrt-hand how much Sasuke had hurt Sakura. If he found it wrong, he should’ve fought. He should’ve never given up on her. I highly doubt that Kishimoto decided on NH such a long time ago and feel more like he left everyone in a thick haze, serving us NH moments and right after NS moments. Till the very last chapters.

But that’s all over now. We can only respect the outcome and force our selves into belief, that the end is happy for everyone. Even if it’s not happy for us. And yes, if you feel that the end is wrong in any kind of way, just stick to it, because that’s one way looking at it and it’s NOT wrong.

IS Kishimoto sexist?

After my rage calmed down a bit I realized that we’re talking about Eastern manga, not a western comic. The view and opinion on woman from a Japanese POV hasn’t been as clear as day to me till this very moment. Till I read those lines.

I am still very angry but I am really trying to understand that what we may see as sexist, they see it as a virtue. Giving up on someone you love and moving on because he’s abusive may seem like a good idea to us (and the best idea IMO), but to Japanese, apparently - it means betrayal of your first feelings when you fell for that person and the betrayal of your pride. So to portray Sakura and Hinata never giving up on their first love, Kishimoto felt that this is the best way how to make the women look "loyal, enduring, chaste, virtuous, strong, unwavering"..Naruto has seen Sakura’s resolve and he loved her for it. At the same time, this very resolve was what hindered them to be together on a romantic level, I guess. Because he would never force him self on her. Because she wouldn’t forgive her self for not saving Sasuke and being by his side, when she claimed how much she loved him at first. This all kind of feels like the outer appearance is so very important in Japan  - once you claim something out loud, you have to stick to it, or else they’ll make fun of you/or you’ll seem as a hypocryte. That’s true pride and even though it is kind of admirable, it can result in terrible pain and hurt for that person….There are just so many suicides in Japan out fo seemingly petty reasons… the people there bend under the pressure of society, some break some don’t…… But it all suddenly is so much clearer to me now.

Which doesn’t mean that I am totally fine with it or support this view fully. To me, the right thing for Sakura would’ve been to move on and show that she’s worth of being loved and treated with care and respect.

To Kishimoto, the right thing was to show that one should always stand by his decision from start to finish, no matter the consequences - and that makes you admirable and mature and strong.

Bot POVs are right. The difference is in considering the  “consequences” of choices and the way we deal with those.

 

It’s 2014 today, the manga started in 1999…. things have changed in Japan as well and I am sure that even the opinion of Japanese women has changed. I am also sure that many female readers will be upset by this statement and that is good. That’s why, even though in Europe and US Kishimoto’s view must seem horribly sexist and plain..ridiculous…. He’s basically no sexist -he just happened to be born in Japan and raised by a culture that has a different views on virtue than we do. Which is okay. Which still doesn’t make me obligatory to like it/fully accept it…..but I do understand at least and that’s why I don’t want to be too angry with him.



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Terrace 130 by natsumi33
Terrace 130
 I want to see Kishimoto's close up on Hyuugas. But before that I need to finish this story. I really need to. I don't know why but I know I have to.

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Forgot to upload this for you guys as well ♥ I've been a fan of these two for years just like you (probably) and  Ihad my own reasons why I supported them - no matter what happened in the end. I always believed Kishimoto wanted these two to be together, hence all the foreshadowing, chara growth and paralels..... I don't know why he would highlight the things he did in the blatant way he did, if it wasn't so....or maybe he just wanted to make us believe it. Anyway, I'm still a supporter of these two but I accept what Kishimoto decided to do. As much as I thought I won't be able to handle the end and draw anything Naruto-related, I was wrong.. I love these two very much, same with Neji and Hinata. So I hope we can all keep all the good things we got from supporting and learning from these characters and let everything else go. Thank you for supporting TUQ and Terrace! :iconbigheartplz: I may change some intended things for the end, inspired by the new character designs. Take care!
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Trying my best to improve and not to bury her self after seeing all those wonderful and talented artists on Dev Art :heart: Is a Narutard, Gintamard, animetard, animationtard....

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I don't know if you already read the lates The Last interview with Kishimoto.....if not, here's a taste of it>>>

raintalker.tumblr.com/post/103…


I am so very sorry I didn't reply to most of your messages to the journal before this one, but I wasn't in the state. I tried to answer the notes at least... But I'll make sure to reply to everyone of you properly, once I gather some strength and time - I read all of your comments and I must THANK YOU for bringing up clever things, for revealing your feelings about it and taking your time to read the hugeass entry. I have some deadlines to reach now, so I should probably focus more on my work - but all this NS.The Last business is sucking the strength out of me. I simply can't believe how narrow-minded and mean some people are and why the whole shipping war still isn't over because some people feel the need to trample all over the love of others, even though they are already pretty much lying in dirt. It's a shame and it's just pathetically low and I am glad that it's all going to end very soon, because this all just turned into something that it TOTALLY NOT WORTH ANYONE'S TIME AND ENERGY. I posted my latest opinions on tumblr, so I'm plastering theme here as well. Might not be able to reply again instantly, but I'll try to do it asap. NS fans are broken and feel they have a warped view on love....that's something that shouldn't be happening, so a few words to you first>


To all NH/SS/NS fans>>>
(but especially for NS fans.....)

the interwiev prooved, that NH wasn’t being planned from the beginning and that it was NOT set in stone from chap 1. Also, Kishimoto now openly stated he CONSIDERED the NS route at SOME point (probably early shippuuden)…..but in the end, he just didn’t because he/his editors/they all found it wrong and bad. So there you have it.

We were definitely NOT delusional, we definitely did not read the thing wrong, and the NS route had definitely been established, but they just didn’t choose it.

Therefore, there’s no reason for NS shippers to feel bad, stupid, with warped view on what is love because the love was there at some point and we filtered it through our own cultural filter. Hope this calms you a bit. And yeah, Naruto didn’t move on. He basically straight out gave up. Because he has seen Sakura’s resolve and considered it admirable virtue. That’s the reason why he didn’t confess. And that is also why we probably won’t see any confession at all - because it just would be pointless. Because the man has his pride and he also respects the woman’s choice. I still would’ve wished, that Kishimoto stepped outside the box and made Naruto fight for her - because he, more than ANYONE IN THE MANGA, had seen fisrt-hand how much Sasuke had hurt Sakura. If he found it wrong, he should’ve fought. He should’ve never given up on her. I highly doubt that Kishimoto decided on NH such a long time ago and feel more like he left everyone in a thick haze, serving us NH moments and right after NS moments. Till the very last chapters.

But that’s all over now. We can only respect the outcome and force our selves into belief, that the end is happy for everyone. Even if it’s not happy for us. And yes, if you feel that the end is wrong in any kind of way, just stick to it, because that’s one way looking at it and it’s NOT wrong.

IS Kishimoto sexist?

After my rage calmed down a bit I realized that we’re talking about Eastern manga, not a western comic. The view and opinion on woman from a Japanese POV hasn’t been as clear as day to me till this very moment. Till I read those lines.

I am still very angry but I am really trying to understand that what we may see as sexist, they see it as a virtue. Giving up on someone you love and moving on because he’s abusive may seem like a good idea to us (and the best idea IMO), but to Japanese, apparently - it means betrayal of your first feelings when you fell for that person and the betrayal of your pride. So to portray Sakura and Hinata never giving up on their first love, Kishimoto felt that this is the best way how to make the women look "loyal, enduring, chaste, virtuous, strong, unwavering"..Naruto has seen Sakura’s resolve and he loved her for it. At the same time, this very resolve was what hindered them to be together on a romantic level, I guess. Because he would never force him self on her. Because she wouldn’t forgive her self for not saving Sasuke and being by his side, when she claimed how much she loved him at first. This all kind of feels like the outer appearance is so very important in Japan  - once you claim something out loud, you have to stick to it, or else they’ll make fun of you/or you’ll seem as a hypocryte. That’s true pride and even though it is kind of admirable, it can result in terrible pain and hurt for that person….There are just so many suicides in Japan out fo seemingly petty reasons… the people there bend under the pressure of society, some break some don’t…… But it all suddenly is so much clearer to me now.

Which doesn’t mean that I am totally fine with it or support this view fully. To me, the right thing for Sakura would’ve been to move on and show that she’s worth of being loved and treated with care and respect.

To Kishimoto, the right thing was to show that one should always stand by his decision from start to finish, no matter the consequences - and that makes you admirable and mature and strong.

Bot POVs are right. The difference is in considering the  “consequences” of choices and the way we deal with those.

 

It’s 2014 today, the manga started in 1999…. things have changed in Japan as well and I am sure that even the opinion of Japanese women has changed. I am also sure that many female readers will be upset by this statement and that is good. That’s why, even though in Europe and US Kishimoto’s view must seem horribly sexist and plain..ridiculous…. He’s basically no sexist -he just happened to be born in Japan and raised by a culture that has a different views on virtue than we do. Which is okay. Which still doesn’t make me obligatory to like it/fully accept it…..but I do understand at least and that’s why I don’t want to be too angry with him.



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SaiyanWarrior002 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014
Hey I've made my own Naruto ending on here and fanfiction.net called Sorry's not Enough. Also you should block SuperSaiyaMan and remove his comments as well.
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natsumi33 Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Thank you very much! <33 (since I am utterly broken about Kishimoto's newes interview....I'll probably refrain from everything Naruto for some time...but still, thank you :hug: )
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Wortgewandt-de Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2014  New member Hobbyist Writer
Hi,
I'm sure you read this a lot, but thank you for Terrace. =)
It's already better than the more than disappointing ending of the manga. :3

Greetings,
Wortgewandt
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natsumi33 Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Thank you very very much :hug: <33
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Aaronmcloud Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014
love love LOVE your samurai jack arts :la: some of my favorite epi's are when he fights the shinobi, and when he overcame the aku infection through his inner self (that friendship armor and beam sword)
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natsumi33 Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Yay, thanks a lot!! :glomp: :heart: SJ will remain one of my all time fav things in the world!!!
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Aaronmcloud Featured By Owner 2 days ago
welcies :meow: heehee.
i hope there's an ending made for such a great show some day. the last episode was jack looking after a baby T.T
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G0tika Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey, SuperSaiyaMan is a troll. I would block him if I were you, so that your beautiful art doesn't get spammed. :)
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natsumi33 Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Already blocked, thank you very much for your concern :hug:
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G0tika Featured By Owner Edited 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
No problem, and I totally feel your disappointment. However, we have to accept that Kishimoto just sold out for a quick buck and popularity at the expense of logic and good writing. It happened to Harry Potter too. 

I think that moving on from Naruto is the best thing that intelligent people can do right now, and let Kishimoto enjoy his worshipping by a bunch of brainless pairing-obsessed sheep. :) 

Because that is what the ending became; all morals and messages we were supposed to see were replaced by a bunch of random people reproducing, and opening up the path for more of the same mistakes as before. There are better stories out there. :D 
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