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Times with You by natsumi33
Times with You
Dedicated to all of you who supported these two beautiful characters throughout the manga. I learned and gained much thanks to these characters inspiring me in life, they mean an awful lot to me and I never expected I'd be so hurt by how the manga ended - these two not becoming canon included in the list of reasons. Same goes for nejihina, these two are my absolute favs ever since the beginning of the series. In the end though, I don't really care much about the romance part - more important is, that Sakura and Naruto share a bond that transcends femalexmale relationships. They are both ready to die for the other at any given time and they are each other's strength and support. It was simply magical and lovely to watch them grow together and change :heart: For that I have to thank Kishimoto for creating them. Even though I hoped for a different end, they'll remain a part of me and I don't regret ever being a fan of these two. Hope it's the same for you guys.

A message to the NH/SS fans who might see this - please don't be rude, comment on the art if you like, comment on the pairing if you like, but stay inside polite boundaries and don't bash. I'll block anyone who starts harrassing in the comment section, sorry. I won't allow what happened last time.
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I don't know if you already read the lates The Last interview with Kishimoto.....if not, here's a taste of it>>>

raintalker.tumblr.com/post/103…


I am so very sorry I didn't reply to most of your messages to the journal before this one, but I wasn't in the state. I tried to answer the notes at least... But I'll make sure to reply to everyone of you properly, once I gather some strength and time - I read all of your comments and I must THANK YOU for bringing up clever things, for revealing your feelings about it and taking your time to read the hugeass entry. I have some deadlines to reach now, so I should probably focus more on my work - but all this NS.The Last business is sucking the strength out of me. I simply can't believe how narrow-minded and mean some people are and why the whole shipping war still isn't over because some people feel the need to trample all over the love of others, even though they are already pretty much lying in dirt. It's a shame and it's just pathetically low and I am glad that it's all going to end very soon, because this all just turned into something that it TOTALLY NOT WORTH ANYONE'S TIME AND ENERGY. I posted my latest opinions on tumblr, so I'm plastering theme here as well. Might not be able to reply again instantly, but I'll try to do it asap. NS fans are broken and feel they have a warped view on love....that's something that shouldn't be happening, so a few words to you first>


To all NH/SS/NS fans>>>
(but especially for NS fans.....)

the interwiev prooved, that NH wasn’t being planned from the beginning and that it was NOT set in stone from chap 1. Also, Kishimoto now openly stated he CONSIDERED the NS route at SOME point (probably early shippuuden)…..but in the end, he just didn’t because he/his editors/they all found it wrong and bad. So there you have it.

We were definitely NOT delusional, we definitely did not read the thing wrong, and the NS route had definitely been established, but they just didn’t choose it.

Therefore, there’s no reason for NS shippers to feel bad, stupid, with warped view on what is love because the love was there at some point and we filtered it through our own cultural filter. Hope this calms you a bit. And yeah, Naruto didn’t move on. He basically straight out gave up. Because he has seen Sakura’s resolve and considered it admirable virtue. That’s the reason why he didn’t confess. And that is also why we probably won’t see any confession at all - because it just would be pointless. Because the man has his pride and he also respects the woman’s choice. I still would’ve wished, that Kishimoto stepped outside the box and made Naruto fight for her - because he, more than ANYONE IN THE MANGA, had seen fisrt-hand how much Sasuke had hurt Sakura. If he found it wrong, he should’ve fought. He should’ve never given up on her. I highly doubt that Kishimoto decided on NH such a long time ago and feel more like he left everyone in a thick haze, serving us NH moments and right after NS moments. Till the very last chapters.

But that’s all over now. We can only respect the outcome and force our selves into belief, that the end is happy for everyone. Even if it’s not happy for us. And yes, if you feel that the end is wrong in any kind of way, just stick to it, because that’s one way looking at it and it’s NOT wrong.

IS Kishimoto sexist?

After my rage calmed down a bit I realized that we’re talking about Eastern manga, not a western comic. The view and opinion on woman from a Japanese POV hasn’t been as clear as day to me till this very moment. Till I read those lines.

I am still very angry but I am really trying to understand that what we may see as sexist, they see it as a virtue. Giving up on someone you love and moving on because he’s abusive may seem like a good idea to us (and the best idea IMO), but to Japanese, apparently - it means betrayal of your first feelings when you fell for that person and the betrayal of your pride. So to portray Sakura and Hinata never giving up on their first love, Kishimoto felt that this is the best way how to make the women look "loyal, enduring, chaste, virtuous, strong, unwavering"..Naruto has seen Sakura’s resolve and he loved her for it. At the same time, this very resolve was what hindered them to be together on a romantic level, I guess. Because he would never force him self on her. Because she wouldn’t forgive her self for not saving Sasuke and being by his side, when she claimed how much she loved him at first. This all kind of feels like the outer appearance is so very important in Japan  - once you claim something out loud, you have to stick to it, or else they’ll make fun of you/or you’ll seem as a hypocryte. That’s true pride and even though it is kind of admirable, it can result in terrible pain and hurt for that person….There are just so many suicides in Japan out fo seemingly petty reasons… the people there bend under the pressure of society, some break some don’t…… But it all suddenly is so much clearer to me now.

Which doesn’t mean that I am totally fine with it or support this view fully. To me, the right thing for Sakura would’ve been to move on and show that she’s worth of being loved and treated with care and respect.

To Kishimoto, the right thing was to show that one should always stand by his decision from start to finish, no matter the consequences - and that makes you admirable and mature and strong.

Bot POVs are right. The difference is in considering the  “consequences” of choices and the way we deal with those.

 

It’s 2014 today, the manga started in 1999…. things have changed in Japan as well and I am sure that even the opinion of Japanese women has changed. I am also sure that many female readers will be upset by this statement and that is good. That’s why, even though in Europe and US Kishimoto’s view must seem horribly sexist and plain..ridiculous…. He’s basically no sexist -he just happened to be born in Japan and raised by a culture that has a different views on virtue than we do. Which is okay. Which still doesn’t make me obligatory to like it/fully accept it…..but I do understand at least and that’s why I don’t want to be too angry with him.



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Terrace 130 by natsumi33
Terrace 130
 I want to see Kishimoto's close up on Hyuugas. But before that I need to finish this story. I really need to. I don't know why but I know I have to.

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I don't know if you already read the lates The Last interview with Kishimoto.....if not, here's a taste of it>>>

raintalker.tumblr.com/post/103…


I am so very sorry I didn't reply to most of your messages to the journal before this one, but I wasn't in the state. I tried to answer the notes at least... But I'll make sure to reply to everyone of you properly, once I gather some strength and time - I read all of your comments and I must THANK YOU for bringing up clever things, for revealing your feelings about it and taking your time to read the hugeass entry. I have some deadlines to reach now, so I should probably focus more on my work - but all this NS.The Last business is sucking the strength out of me. I simply can't believe how narrow-minded and mean some people are and why the whole shipping war still isn't over because some people feel the need to trample all over the love of others, even though they are already pretty much lying in dirt. It's a shame and it's just pathetically low and I am glad that it's all going to end very soon, because this all just turned into something that it TOTALLY NOT WORTH ANYONE'S TIME AND ENERGY. I posted my latest opinions on tumblr, so I'm plastering theme here as well. Might not be able to reply again instantly, but I'll try to do it asap. NS fans are broken and feel they have a warped view on love....that's something that shouldn't be happening, so a few words to you first>


To all NH/SS/NS fans>>>
(but especially for NS fans.....)

the interwiev prooved, that NH wasn’t being planned from the beginning and that it was NOT set in stone from chap 1. Also, Kishimoto now openly stated he CONSIDERED the NS route at SOME point (probably early shippuuden)…..but in the end, he just didn’t because he/his editors/they all found it wrong and bad. So there you have it.

We were definitely NOT delusional, we definitely did not read the thing wrong, and the NS route had definitely been established, but they just didn’t choose it.

Therefore, there’s no reason for NS shippers to feel bad, stupid, with warped view on what is love because the love was there at some point and we filtered it through our own cultural filter. Hope this calms you a bit. And yeah, Naruto didn’t move on. He basically straight out gave up. Because he has seen Sakura’s resolve and considered it admirable virtue. That’s the reason why he didn’t confess. And that is also why we probably won’t see any confession at all - because it just would be pointless. Because the man has his pride and he also respects the woman’s choice. I still would’ve wished, that Kishimoto stepped outside the box and made Naruto fight for her - because he, more than ANYONE IN THE MANGA, had seen fisrt-hand how much Sasuke had hurt Sakura. If he found it wrong, he should’ve fought. He should’ve never given up on her. I highly doubt that Kishimoto decided on NH such a long time ago and feel more like he left everyone in a thick haze, serving us NH moments and right after NS moments. Till the very last chapters.

But that’s all over now. We can only respect the outcome and force our selves into belief, that the end is happy for everyone. Even if it’s not happy for us. And yes, if you feel that the end is wrong in any kind of way, just stick to it, because that’s one way looking at it and it’s NOT wrong.

IS Kishimoto sexist?

After my rage calmed down a bit I realized that we’re talking about Eastern manga, not a western comic. The view and opinion on woman from a Japanese POV hasn’t been as clear as day to me till this very moment. Till I read those lines.

I am still very angry but I am really trying to understand that what we may see as sexist, they see it as a virtue. Giving up on someone you love and moving on because he’s abusive may seem like a good idea to us (and the best idea IMO), but to Japanese, apparently - it means betrayal of your first feelings when you fell for that person and the betrayal of your pride. So to portray Sakura and Hinata never giving up on their first love, Kishimoto felt that this is the best way how to make the women look "loyal, enduring, chaste, virtuous, strong, unwavering"..Naruto has seen Sakura’s resolve and he loved her for it. At the same time, this very resolve was what hindered them to be together on a romantic level, I guess. Because he would never force him self on her. Because she wouldn’t forgive her self for not saving Sasuke and being by his side, when she claimed how much she loved him at first. This all kind of feels like the outer appearance is so very important in Japan  - once you claim something out loud, you have to stick to it, or else they’ll make fun of you/or you’ll seem as a hypocryte. That’s true pride and even though it is kind of admirable, it can result in terrible pain and hurt for that person….There are just so many suicides in Japan out fo seemingly petty reasons… the people there bend under the pressure of society, some break some don’t…… But it all suddenly is so much clearer to me now.

Which doesn’t mean that I am totally fine with it or support this view fully. To me, the right thing for Sakura would’ve been to move on and show that she’s worth of being loved and treated with care and respect.

To Kishimoto, the right thing was to show that one should always stand by his decision from start to finish, no matter the consequences - and that makes you admirable and mature and strong.

Bot POVs are right. The difference is in considering the  “consequences” of choices and the way we deal with those.

 

It’s 2014 today, the manga started in 1999…. things have changed in Japan as well and I am sure that even the opinion of Japanese women has changed. I am also sure that many female readers will be upset by this statement and that is good. That’s why, even though in Europe and US Kishimoto’s view must seem horribly sexist and plain..ridiculous…. He’s basically no sexist -he just happened to be born in Japan and raised by a culture that has a different views on virtue than we do. Which is okay. Which still doesn’t make me obligatory to like it/fully accept it…..but I do understand at least and that’s why I don’t want to be too angry with him.



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natsumi33 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2014
Like a friend said to me: There's still One Piece. Time to move on for me as well....after I finish Terrace :)
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Starlight50 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi! I really love your doujinshis the art style is impressive and the script makes so much sense that its really true like it could really happen in the manga. The first comic I read from you was TUQ it was the most amazing story I've ever read. I read that and the story Terrace over 20 times and even now I'm still reading it. I'm still supporting you with you and your work I haven't forgotten you. Believe it or not I've been watching your work for a while and you've done nothing but amaze me and others. Keep going with your stories your doing Great! :D (Big Grin)
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natsumi33 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
:iconbigheartplz: I'm happy to be writing and drawing for such nice people as you are, thank you for the comment and energy-boost! Hope you keep reading till end ;)
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Starlight50 Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't worry I don't intend to stop at reading your amazing comic.
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natsumi33 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2014
:hug: <3
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PerennialReverie Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I am in completely adoration of your comic "Terrace"! I was not a big NejiHina fan due to my being uncomfortable with incest, but your comic is so wonderful I simply no longer cared. The execution and pacing is absolutely perfect. I've always wanted to start a comic (and finish it) and be able to pace it as good as you. I'm not so good at setting the scenes and transitioning. I sincerely hope you don't abandon such a great piece! Thank you for your awesome contributions. :3
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natsumi33 Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014
:iconbigheartplz: THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT AND CARE!!!!
I wish you good luck with anything you start, hard work repays ALWAYS in one way or another. I absolutely will continue the comic, since the NAruto manga seems to end this year, I really want to finish Terrace before that happens.
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Whatever7795 Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Hello! I just wanted to say that I really like your Terrace comic. The characters are very in character and your inking is so great. I hope to see more (even though the current events in the manga/anime might make it hard. :()!
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natsumi33 Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014
Thank you very very much for the support :heart: ..... I wish I had more skill with real ink, I have gotten too used to inking with pens and markers (but the job is done way faster with those).
The current events....oh man....... I try to ignore it....somehow.... I still can't believe this was Neji's end. I really can't.
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Whatever7795 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You are very welcome!  :)

Oh man, I understand. I'm just pretending he's not dead. At all. That's the good thing about fanworks, I think. A character can still live on even if in the original story they're gone. But yeah, the fact that he's gone really took away a lot of my enthusiasm for the series. :(
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